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David Swindle 🟦's avatar

She's not a private enterprise, she's been given a position to fight antisemitism by Israel.

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Ehud Neor's avatar

Really? She's a government representative? That's news to me. Interesting.

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David Swindle 🟦's avatar

https://www.gov.il/en/departments/news/special-envoy-noa-tishby

I just interviewed her and wrote about her last week, a piece I'm working on developing a post about this week - https://www.jns.org/a-day-in-the-life-of-noa-tishby/

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Ehud Neor's avatar

It was a tailor made appointment. After the fact. She had already done all of the heavy lifting on her own. Kudos to the Foreign Ministry for adopting her (and hopefully supporting her with a budget).

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David Swindle 🟦's avatar

What exactly are you even arguing with me about?

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Ehud Neor's avatar

I didn't feel that I was arguing with you. Just replying to comments and commenting myself. A discussion. Unless you are trying to give credit to the Israeli government for what Noa Tishby has done absolutely on her own. I was arguing with Hornik. I believe the Israeli government should not be in the "explaining-why-Israel-should-be-allowed-to-exist-in-peace" business. It is an exercise in futility.

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David Swindle 🟦's avatar

It's not an exercise in futility. Some people can be swayed.

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Ehud Neor's avatar

Your own efforts in this field are an example of the only possible Zionist PR that can be effective, in my opinion. From a thinking non-Jew. Thinking about this during this back and forth with you and P. David, I tried to understand where Noa is effective. I am guessing that it is mostly with American Jews. Which is a huge contribution to the Zionist cause and if true, I think that it would win the argument for P. David. Meaning, that though Noa created this "start-up" on her own, there is nothing wrong with the Israeli government adopting her approach and using the power of the state to multiply the effectiveness. However, as I said to P. David, the discussion is irrelevant right now. Israel will be striking Iran. The US is either with us or not. After Iran has been neutered, we will wait and see what government arises there. When that existential threat is gone, there may be some use to getting out an official explanation just for the record. That will be the time for any PR if it is needed.

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David Swindle 🟦's avatar

Ehud, do you know that she was featured on Real Time with Bill Maher last week? She travel around and speaks at college campuses and all sorts of places. She's really genuinely effective with everyone, Jews and non-Jews alike. She's tremendously talented and knowledgeable. I just got a copy of her book and my fiancee was so engrossed by it she read it in 3 days.

I think she's one of the leading Zionist activists in the world. Read up on her more and look more into her and you'll see. I'm going to finish a post shortly praising her.

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P. David Hornik's avatar

Ehud, I have a long day of translating ahead of me, so just briefly: our forces strike a terror nest in Nablus or Jenin, kill four or five terrorists and prevent an imminent attack. The PA calls it a war crime and demands that The Hague goes after us. The State Department criticizes it as an "escalation." Jerusalem should say nothing?

Each year US and other campuses around the world erupt in Israel Apartheid weeks driven by the BDS movement. Pro-Israel writers and activists shouldn't respond?

In a Gaza war, the world media presents us as ruthlessly killing civilians. Israeli govt. and others shouldn't respond?

And yes, being human, sometimes we screw up terribly and make our exacerbate our own problems, and that has to be written about too. The runup to the Yom Kippur War. The "Oslo process" leading to terror onslaughts. The current govt., which has been predominantly awful for months and is causing us great social, diplomatic, economic, and very possibly security damage. Has to be written about too. I am "pro" some of my best friends while knowing they're far from perfect.

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