Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Kenny H's avatar

You know what's funny. The Iraq War era was a defining time for both of us politically. We were both in college it seems. At the time before the Iraq War you were liberal. In the early 2000s I was conservative. On a side note I also liked Sowell back then much more than now(I still do like some of his points of view.)

Anyway. My reasoning for being against the Iraq War was and I believe I was right(you may disagree.) Was that US hegemony was good. US hegemony created a more peaceful world. That the only way this could be interrupted was the US spending too much political capital on a stupid war and alienating their allies and citizens. This was informed by this is happening during Vietnam. That war was widely seen as an example of military over-reach and broke the trust in US institutions for a long time. To some degree the effects are still felt.

My reasoning was that Iraq wasn't a threat to the US, there was a high likelihood of Iran benefiting from regional instability and it would force the US to get involved with illiberal middle eastern regimes and bog the US down indefinitely. That the US should save its political capital for intervening in a more serious infraction like say Russia invading another country or a civil war in Syria that might create a refugee crisis.

Anyway I was looking for worldviews and reasoning that fit my newfound ideological curiosity since in my eyes the American right was going off the rails. I came to Chomsky. Oh boy I always disliked him and his foreign policy opinions. He was an America hater. I love my country and my criticism has always been from that perspective. Chomsky held water for illiberal regimes constantly, making excuses for them while coming to the more uncharitable conclusions regarding the US. This man blames the US now for the invasion of Ukraine and has in the past made the blunder of supporting Pol Pot. The Pol Pot part was known in 2003 and was a huge reason I was very critical of his writing from the start.

Through Iraq War protests I found out about all sorts of fringe conspiracies, even early anti-vaxx stuff, but also 9/11 conspiracies. For years I felt like I was on a political island with my views. The Right being gung-ho about war and the left being riddled with populist nonsense, fringe academic theories and conspiracies. Of course things have changed since the days of George W. Bush and the American right has found new profound ways to alienate me, that are different than before. Meanwhile Liberals have to constantly hold back the "Looney Left" themselves.

It took me a while to realize I was a milquetoast moderate liberal, with honestly very boring views and that there were many, many people like me. It's just that often divergent opinions get a lot of airtime and take up a lot of space.

Expand full comment
Marc Friedman's avatar

Allan Ginsberg, Jersey Boy. Paterson. Greatness is in the water we drink.

Expand full comment
16 more comments...